On Human Performance:
Harley Pasternak
The Big Jump host, David Gardner, interviewed celebrity trainer and nutritionist, Harley Pasternak, at the Propel Co:Labs Fitness Festival in Chicago, IL. Check out some of the key takeaways from David's talk with Harley and learn about The Big Jump, a podcast on human reinvention.
Harley’s journey into sports science
- Started off as an “enforcer” in elite hockey
- Not fast, talented, or coordinated
- Beat the crap out of competitor’s players
- Thrived in the gym
- Didn’t have to hit anyone or get hit
- Fascinated by how bodies changed w/ certain exercises
- Led to an interest in kinesiology and study of performance
- Worked w/ Gatorade Sports Science Institute — leading sports physiologist group
What’s the difference in nutritional needs for an elite athlete vs. exercise enthusiast?
- Our needs fit into 3 overlapping circles
- Aesthetic: changing the way your body looks
- Performance
- Health
- We have different habits, foods, and exercises that fit into each of the circles w/ some overlap
- Example 1: Avocado is very healthy for you, but won’t necessarily increase your performance
- Example 2: Electrolyte beverage could save you, but it won’t necessarily change the way your body looks
- Need to ask yourself: What is the main goal?
- What’s the main reason you exercise?
- Look better
- Main reason why people work out
- Primary person Harley tries to address
- Increase health
- Increase performance
- Look better
- For people who exercise to look better, they have to address these 5 habits -- health and performance will benefit as a byproduct
- Walk at least 12,000 steps a day
- Sleep 7 continuous, uninterrupted hours a night
- Unplug from technology for at least 1 hour a day
- 3 meals, 2 snacks
- Protein at least mass of hand (chicken, meat, fish)
- Unlimited vegetables
- Up to a palmful of a high fiber food (fruit, whole grain, legume)
- Healthy fats the size of your thumb (avocado, nuts, seeds, olives)
- Push, pull, or lift something for 5 min a day
- We are all over-exercising but underactive
- No amount of diet or exercise can make up for sitting on your butt all day
- We live a completely sedentary lifestyle
- Balance is important — indulge in moderation
- What’s the point in exercising and eating well if you can’t occasionally indulge other parts?
- Example: Nutella-filled chocolate chip cookie
Learning about nutrition
U.S. is one of the most obese countries in the world
Most people get their nutrition information from social media, fitness magazines
Very rarely do we get nutrition information from people who have the credentials to give such information
None of the top-selling U.S. nutrition authors went to school for nutrition
Medical doctors only get a 2 hour lecture on nutrition in first year medical school
Need to find the right voice to talk to you
Primary sources to get nutritional information from: sciencedaily.com, hubmed.com, Mayo, Harvard, Stanford, Cornell
Debunking food trends & myths
- Carbs
- Fat was the enemy, then salt, and now carbs
- Refined carbohydrates (i.e. sugar) are bad
- Carbohydrates are needed to burn fat
- What kind of carbs do we need? How much?
- Eating for performance: need more carbs (especially endurance)
- Eat to look good: reduce sugar
- Better to focus on what to eat rather than what not to eat — if you focus on what to eat there is not enough room left to be vulnerable
- Açai Bowls
- Have you ever seen an açai berry?
- Went to Brazil 4x to find a berry
- Found that açai is a nut that grows in the forest — take the skin off the nut, mix w/ sugar, create mulch, freeze
- Claim it’s a “superfood”
- Blackberries & blueberries have more antioxidants, fibers, available locally w/o sugar
- Collagen
- Why do people drink it? Knees, joints
- Connective tissue made out of collagen (heart, nails, hair)
- Body doesn’t generate collagen at same rate as we age
- Collagen made by boiling skin of animals (cows, pigs), create viscous liquid, bleach to kill bacteria, dry, turn into a protein powder
- When we eat a protein, it’s broken down into basic amino acids — not processed in the form we ate it
- Drinking collagen is equivalent to eating someone’s hair to make your hair better — Just doesn’t work
- Why it’s popular: popular proteins (whey) have become popular and thus more expensive
- Needed to find cheaper, higher margin supplements
- Collagen (along w/ pea and rice protein) was cheaper
- Alkaline, pH water
- pH is the measure of acidity/balance of a biological entity
- Low pH = acidic, high pH = basic
- Alkaline water leads people to believe that our bodies are too acidic — we need to drink water to balance pH out
- No such thing as pH of human body
- Body is made up of different human systems
- Different pH for different parts
- Don’t want to change pH of body — we all have identical pH to each other
- Body does Homeostasis: maintain a constant state
- Don’t need a pH water, need a doctor to find the root cause that’s making you burp acid or have acid reflux
- Alkaline water is really just water w/ calcium
- Nothing bad, but nothing helpful
- Intermittent fasting
- Go extended period of time w/o eating
- Equivalent of “Being American” — skip breakfast
- Means different things to different people
- Like Ramadan — Average person gains 2.5 lbs over 30 day period
- Issue is about making good food choices (not fasting)
- Skip breakfast, eat bad food and a lot of it for the rest of the day — gain weight
- Need to eat right food and eat right amount of foods
- Veganism
- Benefits
- Eat more vegetables — more fiber
- Less foods that contribute to coronary artery disease
- If you eat vegan properly, eat less calories (no butter)
- Many people replace butter w/ cashew oil, coconut butter — eat the same amount of fat
- Comes down to choices you make as a vegan
- Balance macronutrients, maintain proper caloric intake and output
- Difficult to get enough protein, iron
- Can have a healthy diet as a vegan, but why?
- Humans are designed to eat healthy and experience culture through food (Japan; sushi, Chicago; deep dish, etc)
- If you’re a vegan for philosophical reasons, it’s respectable
- If you’re vegan for health reasons, it’s misled.
- Benefits
- Dairy
- The World Diet book
- Took a year off to travel to the 10 healthiest countries in the world
- Learn what are they eating, how do they cook and eat their food
- All 10 countries had nothing in common
- Most of the top 10 heavily rely on dairy
- The type of dairy is important
- Organic dairy is important — U.S. is the last country in the world to allow hormones to be put in dairy
- Lactose intolerance — people have a tough time breaking down sugar in dairy
- Dairy not high in lactose: greek yogurt, icelandic yoghurt, fermented dairy
- Don’t be scared! Purchase the right kind
- The World Diet book
Parting thoughts:
- No such thing as a magic bullet
- No powder, pill, capsule, or cleanse that will help you|
- Question everything — don’t blindly follow
- Look for multiple sources of information and examine who is providing that information (neutral, credentialized source, will they profit?)
- Fitness is a new thing — look at the impact it’s having on everything
- Check out Harley on Revenge Body